RE: [ROOT] Re: CINT Graphical Environment?

From: Faine, Valeri (fine@bnl.gov)
Date: Thu May 29 2003 - 16:42:51 MEST


Hi Graham,

I think it is good idea and fortunately there is a good prototype:

http://doc.trolltech.com/qsa/articles.html 
http://doc.trolltech.com/qq/qq02-fun-fast-and-flexible-qt-script.html

They did this for QSA, one can do the same sort of things for Cint/Root.
(in theory ;-). In real life Qt and Root widgets can be combined within
one and the same application (see http://root.bnl.gov and
http://www-linux.gsi.de/~go4/qtroot/html/qtroot.html ) so technically
there is a solid foundation to start the job.

   My best regards, Valeri


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-roottalk@pcroot.cern.ch
[mailto:owner-roottalk@pcroot.cern.ch]
> On Behalf Of buskulic@lapp.in2p3.fr
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:59 AM
> To: Graham Lee
> Cc: roottalk@pcroot.cern.ch
> Subject: [ROOT] Re: CINT Graphical Environment?
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> Indeed, I'm personally using CINT in a course on numerical analysis
tools
> with
> students who never heard about C. Actually, it is inside the ROOT
> framework,
> which gives MANY more features (graphical and others). Try
> http://root.cern.ch
> In my course, the students use nedit to edit scripts (which are
actually C
> codes) and a ROOT interactive session to run it. It is also possible
to
> compile
> very simply the script, without bothering about loading libraries,
etc...
> However, there is no such thing as an IDE for CINT use, and this could
be
> indeed very useful for a pedagogical use.
> So I would say your idea is very good from my point of view, and I
would
> be
> very happy to collaborate.
> ROOT and CINT are available on many OS/Compiler combinations, among
which
> Windows, MacOSX, several Unices (look at the download page on the root
> site).
> I'm forwarding your mail to the ROOT mailing list, in case some other
> people
> are interested in your proposal. Perhaps someone already started such
a
> work.
> 
> Please, feel free to ask more information.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Damir
> 
> Quoting Graham Lee <graham.lee@wadham.oxford.ac.uk>:
> 
> > Dear Damir Buskulic,
> >
> > I'm an undergraduate here at the University of Oxford, soon to be
> > working in the Computing Teaching Course on a short project.  The
> > computing practicals in the department are soon to be "ported" to
the C
> > language, and one thing that I've been asked to take into
consideration
> > is a more user-friendly environment in which to learn the C language
> > than the usual text editor/cc combination.
> >
> > I was thus very intrigued to read about your CINT interpreter in a
> > thread on darwin-development.  Having an environment with
interpreted C
> > would be a great from a teaching point of view, as one could use
"direct
> > mode" commands to debug one's programs, and could quickly edit some
code
> > without having to rebuild it.  With the sort of programs taught in
these
> > practicals, execution speed is not an issue.
> >
> > My question is, does there exist an X11-based development
environment
> > for CINT, and if not would it be possible to implement?  I'm
thinking of
> > something similar to Python's IDLE environment, with a source code
> > window, output/direct mode window and perhaps a graphical interface
to
> > the class browser and debugger.  The remit of the environment would
just
> > be to make CINT look more friendly to a student who has never
programmed
> > a computer before.
> >
> > If such an environment does not currently exist but you think that
it
> > would be possible and useful to implement it, I'd be happy to give
it a
> > go and contribute it to the CINT project.  I'm currently tied up
with
> > the main thrust of my project - porting our Graphical Interactive
> > Fourier Transform software from NeXT to Solaris - and am likely to
be so
> > until the beginning of August.  However, please let me know what you
> > think and if it seems feasible I'll try it out over the Summer.
> >
> > Kindest Regards,
> >
> > Graham Lee.
> > --
> > Graham Lee, Wadham College, OX1 3PN
> > http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1342 - home of the only known virus for
the
> > Sinclair ZX Spectrum!
> >
> >
> 



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