Re: New meeting and action list

From: Andrei Gheata <Andrei.Gheata_at_cern.ch>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:46:33 +0100


Hi Mohammad,
Thanks for reporting this. About comparisons between G3-G4 regarding Cerenkov photons I remember we also saw some notable differences between the number of detected photons in ALICE RICH detectors (less in G4) - not explained yet.

Regards,
Andrei

Mohammad Al-Turany wrote:
> Hallo again,
>
>
> I tried the following new packages:
>
> Root 5.22
> Geant4.9.2
> Geant4 VMC r375
> Vgm 3.01
>
> And fortunately with these packages two problems I reported before are
> solved:
>
>

>> Another issue here was the report of Mohammad that assemblies do appear
>> sometime as current volume in tracking (which should never happen).
>> - I did a recent development that fixed a related issue for divided
>> volumes (using the same method to propagate). I suggest to Mohammad to
>> try again and report back. Anyway I cannot test without a simple example.

>
> This error does not appear any more with the new root! So I would say it is
> solved.
>
>
>
>> 5. Report from Mohammad that reflections are not handled correctly via
>> G4root interface.
>> - I checked with the example provided with G4root in test directory
>> (propagation of optical photons in a water tank with bubbles - N06).
>> Reflections *are* taken into account. No example provided yet by Mohammad...

>
>
> Now the results of Root navigation and native geant4 navigation are
> identical concerning the total reflection of cerenkov photons. Still a big
> deference to Geant3 but this has to be investigated (cuts, no. Of steps and
> so on).
>
>
>
> Still the problem with I id and assemblies I will try to discuss with Ivana
> before the meeting!
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Mohammad
> On 19.01.2009 14:36 Uhr, "Andrei Gheata" <Andrei.Gheata_at_cern.ch> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> OK, we will discuss this at the next meeting and decide there what
>> changes (from you and Alessandra should be applied in GEANE. BTW, since
>> we did not have Andrea last time he will be very welcome.
>>
>> I am now booking the meetings for the whole year and make a general
>> announcement of the details.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrei
>>
>> Mohammad Al-Turany wrote:
>>> Hallo everyone,
>>>
>>> Just a comment to the first point:
>>>
>>>> 1. Try to figure out the timeline/responsible for re-writing EUSTEP and
>>>> possibly come-up with more development requirements (Mohammad).
>>>> - status ?
>>> I rewrote the eustep completely in c++ (TGeant3gu), I also had to interface
>>> some common blocks, modify the Makefile and so on. Any way it is working now
>>> for me and I can send the changes at anytime to Rene. The only point which
>>> we may discuss here is that if we should implement in the
>>> TVirtualMCApplication a new method GeaneStepping and call this from the
>>> eustep instead of the stepping which is used usually by G3/G4/Fluka, me
>>> personally I prefer to do this new method! The question is, would it be ok
>>> to everybody should we discuss this in the meeting or there is no need for
>>> discussion?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14.01.2009 8:43 Uhr, "Andrei Gheata" <Andrei.Gheata_at_cern.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> We promised another meeting last year but due to several reasons we did
>>>> not do it. For the next ones I will follow Federico's suggestion and
>>>> book them in advance for the whole year so that we will be forced to
>>>> keep up.
>>>>
>>>> OK, now a reminder for the action list from the last meeting:
>>>> http://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access?resId=minutes&materialId=minutes&con
>>>> fI
>>>> d=41169
>>>>
>>>> 1. Try to figure out the timeline/responsible for re-writing EUSTEP and
>>>> possibly come-up with more development requirements (Mohammad).
>>>> - status ?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Notify M.Maire about the issue (un-physical peaks in GEANE low
>>>> momentum spectra) so that it can be replaced in the GEANE release.
>>>> (Rene) Apply patch from Alessandra to ERTRCH
>>>> - I know there was a discussion with M.Maire who agreed with the results
>>>> of Alessandra and basically said that the ball is on our side. Any news
>>>> if the patch was applied ?
>>>>
>>>> 3. The idea was to remove assembly volumes from the tree path (Ivana had
>>>> to supply an example to Mohammad.
>>>> - status ?
>>>> Another issue here was the report of Mohammad that assemblies do appear
>>>> sometime as current volume in tracking (which should never happen).
>>>> - I did a recent development that fixed a related issue for divided
>>>> volumes (using the same method to propagate). I suggest to Mohammad to
>>>> try again and report back. Anyway I cannot test without a simple example.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Implement the possibility to configure not having G3 defaults so the
>>>> user can use DefineParticle()/SetDecayMode() for defining his own.
>>>> - I admit I did not look yet into this. Ivana, is it better on your side
>>>> ? It is something simple to do but we should actually do it.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Report from Mohammad that reflections are not handled correctly via
>>>> G4root interface.
>>>> - I checked with the example provided with G4root in test directory
>>>> (propagation of optical photons in a water tank with bubbles - N06).
>>>> Reflections *are* taken into account. No example provided yet by Mohammad...
>>>>
>>>> 6. A particle may end-up outside the setup giving the error message: "No
>>>> physical volume found at track vertex: (107635,-190901,-638802)"
>>>> - I have fixed this and to my knowledge does not happen again.
>>>>
>>>> 7. "Proposed step is 0" issue in FLUKA-VMC.
>>>> - I have fixed this in TFluka thanks to the fact that I have got the
>>>> FLUKA source from Alfredo Ferrari.
>>>>
>>>> To do's:
>>>> Responsibles for the items not yet solved, please let me know the
>>>> status. For everybody: I will try to book the next meeting at the very
>>>> beginning of February and after every 2 months after - let me know if
>>>> you are happy with this. Any new items to add to the agenda are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Andrei
>>>>

>
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